Comments on: Haruhi’s Endless Eight: An Indictment Against Kyon

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By: Endless Eight? More like Endless Pedophilia | Baka-Raptor

Endless Eight? More like Endless Pedophilia | Baka-Raptor — Sun, 09 Aug 2009 17:00:47 +0000

[...] Kyon actually bothers to try something, [...]

By: Moonlily

Moonlily — Fri, 31 Jul 2009 21:26:31 +0000

@Pontifus
Exactly! Maybe the presentation is so poor that aside from Koizumi’s suggestion during the stargazing event, we never really see Kyon tackle the problem at all. Aside from the last moment in the restaurant, he just goes along with the flow rather than be proactive in getting things done. Depressing indeed.

@Baka-Raptor
The fact that such a thing never crosses his mind just goes to show how lacking he is in the imagination department. Maybe he’s just sexually repressed because of Haruhi or something.

By: Baka-Raptor

Baka-Raptor — Fri, 31 Jul 2009 12:07:55 +0000

When two hours are left and he knows time is going to repeat, Kyon could at least blow his life savings on strippers instead of going to bed.

By: Pontifus

Pontifus — Fri, 31 Jul 2009 09:02:28 +0000

Nice post. Let me throw this out there, though, going with the assumption that Kyon is a self-insertion character (I doubt it), or at least a kind of audience proxy/unwitting everyman insofar as he’s the POV character (a more reasonable alternative, I’d think).

Kyon’s inability to act at the end of each episode frustrates me, too. It’s also in line with his semi-fatalism, so maybe he really just doesn’t have the initiative to take on a tough problem, as you suggest. But I think his deciding not to run off and lay as many women as he can and murder his enemies and whatnot shows that he’s at least willing to try to a point, if only out of a sense of duty to his friends. This is a stretch, but maybe he’s also concerned that nothing so exciting will happen again, which makes some strange bit of sense given certain things at the end of the Disappearance novel.

I think he’s complex enough, then, not to fail utterly at generating audience identification — at least from where I’m sitting, which is the only perspective I presume to speak from with any real authority. If anything’s worrying, it’s that Kyon might serve as commentary on the audience, that we might be so willing to ignore our agency over our fates that we wouldn’t so much as try to suggest some activity to Haruhi in the restaurant 15,000-some times. If anything, it’s the sheer probability of Kyon’s doing absolutely nothing when given the choice, combined with his being at least moderately fleshed out and relatable, that depresses me.